Wednesday 4 July 2012

Rear Parting Toolpost on Small Lathes.


Large diameter, large vertical force v, small horizontal force h

There has been a lot of debate about the pros and cons of using a rear mounted tool post for parting off on small(ish) lathes. Some advocate the rear mounted while some argue that they are not necessary. This post tries to look at the advantages of the rear mounted tool post in a (hopefully) simple and clear way.

Small diameter still large vertical force v1 but much larger horizontal force h1


Every lathe has some play in the headstock bearings, no matter how little, it is there, and there will be some flexibility in the tool (absolute rigidity is impossible) as well as some flexibility in the workpiece, metal unfortunately is flexible. it may be minute movement but the effects of all these are cumulative.


As I see it, the front mounted tool will tend to be forced downwards while the work is trying to climb the tool. Even if the tool is set exactly on centre before parting these effects will tend to force the tool below centre as the work progresses. There will then be a forward component to the forces h and h1 above) acting on the tool pulling it into the work and the backlash present in the cross slide screw will allow the tool to tend to be pulled forward, into the workpiece.

As the diameter of the workpiece decreases the forward pull (h and h above) increases as does the tendency of the work to climb and the tool to be forced down. Eventually the tool tries to submarine below the work into a restricted space between the work and the cross slide. It jams, causes problems and then the 'bang' we have all dreaded, a broken tool and possibly damaged workpiece as a consequence.. That is why large diameter work such a 100mm dia tubing etc is relatively easy to part off, because these effects are minimised at the larger diameter, it is as the cut progresses and the work gets smaller that the effect increases. I.e. the smaller the diameter the greater tendency to climb and the forward, pulling force acting on the tool increases and the tool submarines.


With a rear toolpost as the flexibility allows the tool to be forced upwards it is pushed away from the work due to the position of the centre of rotation of the toolpost. hence less jamming. It is also mounted directly onto the cross slide and not on the compound and the latter allows more movement due to the two sets of dovetails.

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